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I had to write about it eventually. DMOZ is a horribly corrupt, flawed system. Personally, I hope it goes away. With the evaporation in importance of the Yahoo! Directory and the closure of Zeal, the writing on the wall is no longer just writing. It's happening. And with AOL running it, you may also wonder why your password hasn't been released for academic research on passwords. That said, many SEOs are still a bit DMOZ-obsessed. Even if the pages themselves drive zero traffic, the links, for reasons I do not entirely understand still do carry a disproportionate amount of link-equity. Personally, I think this trend of their importance is downward. The directory pages themselves have large amounts of outgoing links, sparse copy, and look a lot like, well, directory pages. I doubt LinkMetro links carry much weight, either. Regardless, here are my thoughts: 1. Read the anal-retentive guidelines. They're totally silly, and some of the editors observe them like cult-members, but the dogma can work to your advantage, as most submitters do not read them. I'm an editor, and I don't reject listings for obscure reasons; but then again, I've never been a devout member of a cult. Wait 6 months — patiently. One thing: Don't put any fluff in the description. Pretend you don't like your site that much, and you are totally disaffected. Pointless fluff and hype really ticks off editors (even me). 2. If that doesn't work, become an editor for a category like this one. Edit it for awhile responsibly, and then request a new category. Remember to read the anal-retentive guidelines. Pretend you're a devout cult member. For example, when you apply for the new category, never suggest 2 sites from the same author to a category — even if they are entirely different with 0% content-overlap. In fact, if you do that, they will reject you because L. Ron DMOZ dictates The Law as such. When you're an editor, remember that even if there is nothing to do in your category, they will disable your account for not maintaining the category after four months. That means you should spend time changing capitalization and punctuation for no reason at all once a month or so. Note: I have actually been rejected for suggesting 2 totally different sites by the same author to a category with broken links. I actually wanted to edit the category. Apparently DMOZ values the laws of L. Ron DMOZ so much that they fail to apply logic to their decisions. Or they just really like broken links in their directory. I also keep getting booted for not editing a totally mature category that requires few edits. 3. If all of the above fails, you may just want to talk to this guy. Maybe that will work:
I feel DMOZ will become completely obsolete over time. But these tips may help before the second coming, where Jesus presumably edits all categories with honesty and promptness. I've gotten a few things listed in the meantime Update: BizMord brought up in the comments that getting a DMOZ listing can also actually hurt your SERP-relevence by causing the DMOZ description to be presented instead of the search engine's excerpted comment. He says this calls into question whether you even want a DMOZ listing. This is an interesting point. Supposedly, Google only presents the DMOZ information when its relevance calculations indicate that it is more relevant than the excerpted content. Unfortunately, regardless of relevance, a directory listing may not have a good call to action. To address that concern, you may use the following tag to turn off DMOZ in most of the major search engines: <meta name="robots" content="noodp"> This echos the same thing that Jill Whalen has been saying regarding Yahoo directory listings for awhile, and what Barry Schwartz recently requested of Yahoo! directory listings. I see it as a trend. Everyone bought in to directories for awhile — even Google did with the "Google Directory." But now directories are just flat out obsolete. And I'm not even sure they can be trusted anymore. So just submit and stick with suggestion 3 if all else fails. Related posts: DMOZ Is Back. But Why Should You Care? If you log into your DMOZ editor account today, you'll... DMOZ Editing 100% Back Up A little while ago I reported that DMOZ had risen... Yahoo Hosting's Lack of .htaccess Support Here I am, minding my own business, trying to write... Influence of a tilde, ~, on a Link's Value I have never gotten an authorative answer to this question,... Three approaches to the breadcrumb duplicate-content issues This is an old topic for me; one that I...
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I wrote a great article on how to get listed in DMOZ. It's on my blog. I do agree that DMOZ may become obsolete espcially, with things like an editor selling placement and other scandal's of the past.
Question is … do I want to get into DMOZ? From my experience I have not seen DMOZ play a big part in rankings. The bad part about DMOZ is that sometimes your Google results will take your DMOZ description and that's not the best outcome. By the way … good to see another New Yorker SEO. Keep in touch.
You have a point there. I'm going to add that to the post, and note that if you are concerned about that, use the NOODP meta tag: <meta name="robots" content="noodp"> or <meta name="googlebot" content="noodp"> This works in Google and MSN. I do not believe it works in Yahoo yet. More information here: And yep, I'm in the NYC SEO club. Nice to meet ya
This is all way toooo complicated. Buy an editor account as long as supply lasts! They're as cheap as a few 100 USD. See http://groups.google.com/group/de.comm.infosystems.suchmaschinen/msg/6230a9075e695ca1
Great article…tbh I dont even understand how you managed to get as far as becoming an editor. I just spend 45 minutes dribbling over my keyboard (with intermittent ranting on messenger to a friend - whos since stopped talking to me) about how utterly cack dmoz is. I really hope is dies and is never mentioned again, destined to be what it really is, a site-place-holder for lame arse isps who think they'll make money of a domain name.
I thought the same as everyone on this list. I hate dmoz. It is corrupt. If you go through some of the editors and look at their links to their sites, you will make note…every single one of them have their own links in there. This is corrupt as hell. I am so surprised Google allows this to go on, and that AOL allows it as well. Someone needs to hack into that whole system and take it down…over and over again, and put up a placeholder like…DMOZ is no longer valid. This would be a great time for someone to comeup with a new system, one that actually works. http://www.10000mb.com
Thanks for the article. But how does Dmoz helps most.:)
Your article above is very funny and sadly some points of it are very true. I have just applied (for the 2nd time) to become an editor but I don't hold out much hope for it being accepted. It's a shame that people like me who genuinelly would like to contribute to the directory are rejected. I think the DMOZ is a fantastic idea, I have had excellent rankings on sites which I had submitted to DMOZ a few years back, since then no sites seem to have been added to the sections I applied for! Hopefully things will work out a bit better now that people can actually submit sites and perhaps there will be more editors onboard soon!
I'm not surprised that it's almost impossible to become an editor any longer. Just think about all the spammers playing as good guys. How do you distinguish between a real contributor and a spammer on the other end? Looking at Wikipedia's activitry on monitoring of the published content makes your head spinning! I can't imagine how much human time has to be invested into maintaining any of these content systems.
I submitted my site to DMOZ two years ago, then resumbitted it twice once a year. And nothing ;(
Since DMOZ has been back up, I've been submitting some new sites that I've been working on. The one site I submitted more than 6 months ago has not been listed. How long does it generally take? It's annoying because there are competitors sites in DMOZ getting a lot of value from it and they won't even list this site I'm working on for a client which has better content! Another issue I'm working with is that I submitted my original site to DMOZ a very long time ago before I know anything about SEO. I submitted a change request to change the link text from my website URL to Marketing Expert and have heard nothing!!! Does anyone even work there?
Good article. I've seen DMOZ show up in my logs a few times, but I've never been listed. GroovyU » Blog Archive » Time for a[...] DMOZ has been down for months, it's slow, and it's plagued by problems. When will someone create a new DMOZ? This is a great opportunity for a Web 2.0 organization to fill a void. [...] NYLON » Archive » Μια νÎα ματιά στην online Διαφήμιση (ή Ενθάδε Κείται το Page View 2.0)[...] σου στο DMOZ, δεν θα εμφανιστείς στις κατηγοÏίες της Alexa (εδώ οδηγίες πως μποÏείς να καταχωÏηθείς στο [...] Is DMOZ even worth it? | ChillyCool Web Digger[...] Do you even want to get your site into DMOZ? Good question. Somehow, long ago, I was invited by a DMOZ editor to submit my Affiliate Marketing Journal site and actually get it reviewed before hell froze over. That site got into DMOZ. (None of my far better sites did, it's worth noting). [...] The Devil & Online Advertising[...] Your site won't show in any of the category listings on Alexa. To learn more about "How to Get Into DMOZ" read this article by Jaimie [...] The Devil & Online Advertising -- Young Go Getter[...] Your site won't show in any of the category listings on Alexa. To learn more about "How to Get Into DMOZ" read this article by Jaimie [...]
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