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I'm friendly with some spammers. Most of them are pretty nice guys. I don't spam, and I never will — but I keep in touch. Since most spammers are really just out to make a buck and not hurt anyone, I would never expect them to mock and laugh at a spam victim. But sadly, that's exactly what "white hat" Rand Fishkin and the "professionals" at SEOmoz did. Let's have a look: G-man writes on their blog: "you've got to understand what I currently do for a living…I scrape the search engines and create the "crap" that they really don't like to see in their results." Their response — It's disgraceful. They mock and laugh at it in the post: "Actually Kimberly called twice and on the first call said something about reporting me for stalking. This person, in my opinion, needs help." "I've got a new title - LOL." How could the same guys that got a full-page interview in Newsweek, Washington Post and USA Today be laughing at some upset spam victim? Because Rand has a few outsiders contributors to his blog, I instinctively thought that this was just a mistake that slipped by and it was sure to be retracted. How horrifying it was to discover that not only was it not retracted, but Rand actually put his stamp of approval on these shenanigans with a later edit! SEOmoz more than tacitly endorses this behavior when he says: Note: This guy also speaks at SES. They argue, among other things, that since G-man only used SERPs, that it's fair use. Ok, let's assume for a moment that that's true. I don't think it is, because the aggregation of lots of fair use is not fair use. But even if it is fair use, why is a corporate blog hiding behind a technicality? Why do, or speak about it, at all? Every black hatter I know said he would just pull the offending content down if someone got mad enough. "It's bad karma," one of them once told me. Clearly, even most black hatters have a soul. OK so it's just Rand and G-man that are soulless, right? Wrong. SEOmoz team member Rebecca piles on in the comment section with a: I think Kimberly is the Dean of Bad Grammar. Wow, imagine someone's grammar wasn't perfect when they were totally upset. Unforgivable! She continues with the only piece of sanity from SEOmoz in the entire exchange: "If you don't like the blog, don't read it." I stopped reading. Here's the cache if they remove this post. Maybe I should post the whole article as search engine result excerpts. That's fair use according to Rand, after all. As for G-man. Some 800 of his spam sites can be seen here: http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=IP%3A69.50.138.12&FORM=QBHP And there are many more. Just use Alexa and MSN to find the rest. The spam victim, Kimberly said: One last warning Mr. Faivre [G-man's real name], if you do not remove my property from your site immediately every one on the net will just what a thief you are. Well Kimberly, maybe you just got your wish! If you think this is wrong digg it. Related posts: 5 Ways To Write Really Great Comment Spam If shoemoney can write how to stop spam, I can... Microsoft's Anti-Spam Project I said awhile back in my post, Google Violates Computer... Corporate Comment Spam? It's now pretty clear that companies must monitor their online... Free SEO Site Clinic - Get Your Site Reviewed: November I'll be in Israel for the next week or so... NY Bar Takes Aim at Cheeseball Lawyer Spam Sites The NY Bar has a new set of rules for...
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Wow that's terrible. It's nice to see someone stick up for Kimberly. I would be mad too if I were her.
I've been pondering the legality of SERP scraping for some time and, frankly, haven't reached many conclusions. I am pretty certain that the "fair use" argument falls flat. SERP scraping fails most of the tests used to determine fair use since it is commercial, unattributed and offers no commentary, crticism, education or news value. It only takes a basic understanding of what is fair use to see the flaws in that. The real question is who's copyright does it infringe? It could infringe the search engine's copyright because copyright law does protect any collective work that was assembled creatively (I don't think anyone will say that a SERP isn't creative). However, it could also be an infringement on the original author's copyright as there is no opt out method (unlike with search engines), and their content is being reused in a means that would almost certainly fail a fair use test. Of course, if you're a spammer doing this. The concerns run much deeper than just copyright. You also have trademark violations to worry about if you scrape a TM name, an unfair business practices tort, a variety of computer anti-abuse acts and, my personal favorite, Trespass to Chattels (or property). Personally, I view copyright law as the least of a scraper's concerns. Most cases agianst scrapers have gone against the scraper but have hinged largely on other variables. However, copyright law certainly can be brought to bear, especially if the scraped work is "creative" as would be the case here. Just my two cents.
Mocking people isn't just impolite, it's bad business. Hopefully the folks snickering over at SEOMoz will learn from their mistakes.
Maybe I took the bait, but I doubt this is the right kind of attention for them. I really think they should suck it up and appologize to her. I could nofollow the links, but really, what would it accomplish — making Matt Cutts scream in ecstasy as I make his grand wish of nofollowing all "untrusted" links come true? Maybe I should nofollow them, actually
Jamie - thanks for your concern. I think it's very honorable of you to stick up for Kimberly. G-man's post is certainly a bit more brash and derisive than what I usually like to have on the blog, but at the same time, I hate to edit or remove posts from our writers unless it's absolutely neccessary. Clearly, this one has sparked some conflict and we'll have to look carefully at whether keeping it in its current form is the best plan. I do appreciate your kind words about us - I hope we can continue to live up to your high expectations. Sadly, Kimberly has called our offices several times as well, and sent literally dozens of emails. I believe her primary problem is actually with a site that ranks in front of hers that G-man's scraped results linked to. I'm still searching for the best resolution to the issue.
I think there is too much concern with the legality or illegality of SERP scraping and not enough attention to the ethics of it. For all I know this woman might indeed be a raving lunatic, but the bottom line is that she was upset and had a reason to be. I don't think her content should have been appropriated in the first place — whether it's fair use or not does not affect my opinion in the slightest: lots of things are legal that are still wrong. When she complained the material should have been taken down. Her e-mail should certainly not have been posted. As a regular reader of SEOMoz I'm a bit shocked by this incident.
Xensen, I totally agree. I felt someone needed to stand up for her, seriously. I don't care if she's a total lunatic — she's at least partially justified. Honestly, if I were not familiar with the SEO and so used to spammers scraping stuff, I'd probably react the same way.
This whole incident has been grossly blown way out of proportion. SEOmoz is being painted as the schoolyard bully who steals everyone's lunch money, which is absolutely absurd. Yes, G-Man is a spammer, and yes, he writes for our blog. We pride ourselves on having diverse points of views (that of a spammer, of crotchety Michael Martinez, of Rand, etc). Yes, G-Man's post was irrelevant and poked fun at some woman who got caught up in the mix. However, I stand by my comment and by Rand's comment. She makes it difficult to sympathize with her when her site has an absurd terms of usage policy that she expected SEOmoz to comply with, incessantly harrasses everyone at SEOmoz (via email and phone calls) and harrasses G-Man, going so far as to accusing him of being a sex offender. Plus, it reflects poorly on her as Dean of the school if her grammar and communication skills are as bad as they are. I conclude by urging us to move past this already. We have other blog posts that offer up relevant, interesting content, and I for one wouldn't mind returning our blog to the state it was in prior to this whole mess.
"One of the people he scraped was Kimberly Williams of Boston Electrolysis." No, I never scraped her site. I scraped the search engines who scraped her site. There is a difference although it may be a fine line Honestly, had she e-mailed me the first time and asked nicely without going into threats and such I'd have removed the content and gone about my day. It was the way in which she handled herself that provoked my response. Could I have handled it differently? Of course I could have. Nevertheless, I found it quite humorous that most of what she said was inaccurate, false or blatant lies. G-Man
we are currently working on a law in tennessee to be submitted to the state congress after the elections. this law will make scraping, spamming and spyware felonies. creaters of the software that does this will receive jail time and fines. companies using the software including companies being advertised will get mandatory minimum fines of 10% of yearly gross income and can have their company assets seized.you might want to inact a law like this one in your states.
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epcookjr - just as a curiosity how do you define scraping? How does it differ from spidering and caching which google, yahoo, msn, ask, technorati, icerocket, topix, newsvine, and half of every other web 2.0 company does.
Kimberly Williams, R.E., Dean Boston School of Electrolysis MR. GEOFFREY FAIVRE-MALLOY AKA THE SENSITIVE SPAMMER? Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre AKA MR. G In regards to Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre The Over Sensitive Spammer Mr. Geoffrey Faivre Malloy owns quite a few cheap unlisted websites with hair removal scams and products that I know to be dangerous. He uses privacy lock to hide his identity from dissatisfied customers and spam victims. In addition he likes to use Alexa to find higher ranked websites where he steals your URL and business name, where he places your URL and content on his cheap temporary laser hair removal blog. This morning I found more nasty posts by Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre and his so called flunky friends or should I say fiends? Additionally he comments that if I had emailed him the first time and asked him nicely he would have removed the content. However when I first called Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre and introduced myself as Kimberly Williams of Boston School Of Electrolysis he hung up. Fact I called a second time and left my name and number and again he refused to answer and refused all my emails, which can try ones patience. However I guess times have changed because we now live in the era of the Sensitive Spammer and we must be politically correct and I dare not hurt Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre feelings. In spite of this Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre is embarrassed that he got caught and now he wants to dish out some vindictive poisoned tongued pay back on a 58 year old woman who is a disabled American Veteran with a spinal injury in addition to being the sole source of income for her family. So what does he do? He lines up all his yes men and yes women to make nasty comments to empower and repair his damaged ego at my expense. His little harpy Rebecca uses her sharp claws and makes snide remarks from her pillar of impunity where she wishes every thing would return to normal? Rebecca’s comments about my writing are questionable and I admit that I am human being and make mistakes but my heart is the right place. However Rebecca is not aware that I work 12 hours days at my practice where I successfully treat patients with severe unwanted hair problems that are considered hopeless. Additionally Mr. Geoffrey Faivre Malloy and his flunkies have ridiculed my profession as dean of electrolysis and they thinks a woman with a severe disfiguring unwanted facial hair problem is some one to make fun of. However at night I write articles about electrolysis, nevertheless Rebecca and Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre are unaware that I have to send five to ten letters to spamming thieves on weekly basis. These letters are sent to thieves who steal my business name and use my professional reputation to sell temporary hair removal products that I are know to be dangerous to the consumer and a scam product to say the least. However my lowly website Boston School Of Electrolysis which Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre picked to spam and slam only receives from 50,000 to 70,000 hits per month. Furthermore if you read my articles and testimonials you would learn that I am most passionate about my work where I provide a written guarantee of excellence. In today’s impersonal world people like Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre demand blood and take pleasure in harming my name and professional reputation. However if he had been man enough to speak to me this whole situation would never have happened. Fact, Boston School Of Electrolysis fights wrong doers especially those who use my name to sell their dangerous treatments and scam-ridden products that victimize and harm women. Fact Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre is out to hurt me any way he can and as usual he hides behind computer and he is to afraid to answer his phone. Fact and for the record if Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre had a conscious he would not sell dangerous temporary hair removal products on his websites using my name and reputation. Additionally he does not understand why I am upset that he uses my name and professional reputation to sell products that harm women. On Gray Wolf he has made a negative and slanted comment about my state of being however its most obvious he is a Red Neck TS-TG Gay basher. How many GLBTG people are reading this? Also Rebecca ridiculed my professional achievements and failed to mention my lecture series at Harvard Medical School from 1983-1987. Please visit link below. http://www.bostonschoolofelectrolysis.com/harvard.php However its apparent Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre has developed an unhealthy obsession to the point where he assassinates my character with dishonest fictitious slanderous accusations of emotional instability, which demonstrates his underlying hatred of myself for some unknown reason. Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre is an immature Internet bully and his subversive sidekick Rebecca leaves something to be desired. Nonetheless when Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre and Rebecca runs out of victims and get to the end of the line the only victims left to hurt will be themselves. However maybe Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre will leave me alone if I tell him he has been successful in hurting my feelings. Perhaps Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre will feel better if knows that he has aggravated my chronic pain from a triple cervical spinal injury. Well Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre I am telling you that you have hurt and caused myself pain, however I have a need to know, does hurting me make you feel better? Would you like me turn my back so you can finish the job? Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre you are a grade school bully and I have prayed to God to give you the good sense and humility to please leave me alone and stop stalking myself and my website http://www.bostonschoolofelectrolysis.com. Also if go to Google and type Boston School Of Electrolysis you can see Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre in action where he cyber-stalks my website with filthy lies. In summation the Scottsdale Police have referred my case to the Maricopa County Attorney Generals Office, Arizona Hate Crimes Task Force. Lets hope he stops stalking my listings and my website on the Internet because I have an appointment first thing Monday morning. Thanks to all of you that have been supportive of the truth! Kimberly Williams, R.E., Dean
I for one will not be visiting SEOmoz again..
Honestly - does it matter if someone from the public does not understand what scraping is etc. Can we ridicule this lady for getting upset/taking herself and her career seriously/wanting to stop someone from scraping her damn site? So she has bad grammar, so her job is removing hair, she possibly isn't one of the wittiest or well spoken. It seems you have done something to offend her, she has jumped onto her soapbox to stop you because in previous efforts with internet scammers/spammers/scrapers she has possibly had to fight very hard to get heard. We are wasting her time and ridiculing her for not knowing much about the internet. Maybe she doesn't care, after all I don't care about hair removal. So you didn't technically 'scrape' her site, so you haven't done anything wrong. In my mind its not about who is right and wrong here, its just about dealing with the public and whilc you may be a genius at spamming SERPs (well done) you don't seem to have much skill in this area. I'm sure you're a smart guy G-man, don't care about this shit and just want to make your money - as I would expect. I am surprised that the people at seomoz are so upset though - difficult lady to deal with? Perhaps, deal with it. Ridicule her and get bad press? Possibly not the best approach but who really knows.
epcookjr- it's nice to see a state taking the lead on such an important initiative. i'd like to see a bill like that introduced in my state as well (Missouri). can you tell me who is responsible for this bill or where i can get more information on it? i'd like to put a call into my local representative voicing my support. thanks!
Boston School Of Electrolysis™ Kimberly Williams, R.E., Dean Says SEOmoz Mocks and Laughs at Spam Victim 2 THE CASE OF THE OVER SENSITIVE SPAMMERS? Dear Jaime, I wanted to let you know that I appreciate your help and support of Boston School of Electrolysis. Fact I have a regular following on Boston School of Electrolysis and I thought it would be nice to have an article by you about search engine optimization. Would you be interested? Additionally this article could be a four or five pages, also would you please include how to avoid the SEO scam and spam operators that seem to permeate the SEO industry. Jamie regarding comments by Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre AKA MR. G about my writing skills, I admit I am dyslexic. However with the recent loss of my life partner to Leukemia and Megloblastic Anemia this past May, my life has been most trying. So I have been learning how to do everything without John who edited my copy and was also my Webmaster. John’s illness was ongoing for over a year and that made it difficult to make the smallest change to the site, especially in his last four months, so that’s why there are typos here and there of which I am working to correct. Jamie Boston School of Electrolysis has an excellent professional reputation For Safe Permanent Hair Removal and is a bulwark against temporary laser hair removal scams that lie, cheat and steal and cause harm to the consumer. Regarding Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre's writing skills and composition, if you take the time to actually read his boring passionless dribble you become aware of his mediocrity. Furthermore the only time his writing demonstrates enthusiasm is when he is talking about himself or maliciously slandering some one. Fact I quote Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre AKA The G-man where he said, “I’m so evil.†Fact I agree 100% that he is evil. Jamie electrologists with websites who check their listings have noticed spamming websites that are stealing your name, your URL, key words and most important your copyrighted content. Fact when you open these websites all they have listed are Laser Hair Removal advertisements and when you open one of those websites you will discover they are a Laser Parlor Operators that are located right in my neighborhood and laser parlor operators are an electrologist’s primary competitors. So for the record a website owned by Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre who stole my business name Boston School of Electrolysis, my URL, my intellectual property and my professional reputation listed my competitors in the Phoenix area. Here is a copy of his website URL using my business name boston-school-of-electrolysis.mysearch85.info/ which lists my competitors using my name. Fact he is targeting my consumer base in the Scottsdale Phoenix area and Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre knows this and that’s why he is giving me such a hard time for speaking the truth. Nevertheless here is why I am so angry with Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre and others like him. John’s medical bills where financially crippling and during that time I fought one parasitic website after another who used the same exact mode of operation to steal hits from my website which affects my practice. I would have liked to been able to afford the best medical care. However when you’re the sole income, running a practice with an overhead and taking care of your terminally ill partner your life becomes difficult. Fact those spamming websites that targeted my consumer base affected my income. Fact I am sick and tired of spammers like Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre who pretends to have no clue and claim he does not realize the damage his spamming websites do to honest professionals like myself. Fact and for the record you can call it spamming, website scraping, pagejacking however in my book its lying, cheating and stealing and those are felony crimes. Shame on you Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre for using your abilities to slander and defame my name and my website http://www.bostonschoolofelectrolysis.com all because you got caught. Fact Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre all because I don’t like smug arrogant people like you that think the world owes him a living at the expense of hard working honest people. However Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre AKA The G-man who uses the excuse because I called him a scumbag thinks that entitles him to cyber-stalk my life,my website BostonSchoolofElectrolysis.com and slander my professional reputation. In addition Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre AKA The G-man uses my identity on Gray Wolf so he can post more of his malicious lies. To all honest people if you want to see Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre in action and how he is optimizing my website by cyber-stalking myself, my website and slandering me go to the Google and type Boston School of Electrolyis AZ. Fact you will see where how he has listed me on forums and steals my name and domain to slander myself with more his malicious vicious lies. Below are a few of the forum where he has listed me . wolf-howl.com/seo/ kimberly-williams-boston-school-of-electrolysis/ Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre what goes around comes around and some day it will be coming around just for you. KW
Boston School Of Electrolysis Kimberly Williams, R.E., Dean & Mr. Geoffrey Faivre Malloy AKA The G-Man The lines in the sand are drawn, you step on my side and I’ll step on yours is often what leads to disagreements, feuds and eventually hate. Without one doubt the Internet has become a breeding ground for superiority where some people have excellent skills and use them for the common good. On the other hand there are those who use their skills for ill-gotten means to take advantage of others. Without one doubt we live in the age of instant communication, nevertheless disagreements are the cause for cutting the lines of communication that result in what more can I do to cause harm to my enemy? Fact to get along we have to open the lines of communication no matter which party is right or wrong, both have to agree to put our differences behind and start over from scratch. They’re after its one cautious step of trust at a time and in short while you’ll discover, hey we get along and most of the time you become friends. Fact and for the record Geoffrey Faivre Malloy AKA the G-Man and I have put our differences behind us and my request is that every one else that got involved, please put it behind you. For your information this is not about Black Hats, White Hats or Gray Hats, however its Old Hat and its now history. Thank you for your time and attention, Kimberly Williams, R.E., Dean Geoffrey Faivre Malloy AKA The G-Man Says,
Kimberly Williams, R.E., Dean Boston School of Electrolysis Boston Electrolysis Private Practice Search Engine Optimization Kimberly Williams, R.E., Dean Says Kimberly Williams - Boston School Of Electrolysis Kimberly Williams & Reputation Management Graywolf’s SEO Blog Our wonderful world of technology has it ups and downs including the people that use it. All practicing electrologists, manufacturers of electrolysis equipment, distributors that have websites ask, is search engine optimization for my website and who can I trust? The electrolysis industry has recently emerged from a long drawn out siege with the Laser Parlor Industry who have finally succumbed to defeat however we suffered some damage. However the Laser Parlor Industry has a new axis of evil partner. Fact if you’re an electrologist, manufacturer of electrolysis equipment, supplier of instruments or related industry this article is of interest to you. Most folk are not aware there are 40,000 electrologists in North America and our numbers are steadily increasing. For those electrologists and others with websites who check their listings maybe you noticed that there are websites that are stealing your name, your URL, key words and most important they have stolen your copyrighted content. Fact when you open these websites all they have listed are laser parlor hair removal advertisements and when you open one those websites you will discover they are a laser parlor operators located right in your neighborhood and they are your competitors. So for the record they steal your intellectual property, your professional reputation and hard work to undermine your practice. This new form of the theft is called website scraping and it appears its just another loophole for the ethically challenged laser parlor operator and his new friend the Black Hatter. Fact this form of deceptive advertising is highly illegal and I noticed that my website http://www.bostonschoolofelectrolysis.com/ has been targeted by these criminals. Fact electrologists, electrolysis schools with successful websites beware, laser parlor manufacturers and their operators have hired the “Nets†most unscrupulous search engine optimizers to target your economic base by website scraping. Fact there is proof of this ongoing conspiracy by the Laser Parlor Industry to steal an electrologsits clientele is to gather website data in any which way they can. Time has proven that temporary laser removal is a scam at best in addition it emits harmful cancer causing ultraviolet radiation however the criminals profiting your hard work could care less about the public. Below is a link to Americas most read laser hair removal thesis and dissertation. http://www.bostonschoolofelectrolysis.com/boston-electrolysis-2.html. However it is most obvious the laser parlor industry is in serious financial trouble because after ten years on the market it just does not work and it’s dangerous to. However laser parlor operators are desperate and this is reason why they continue to undermine and target successful electrologists and their websites with this new form of illegal deceptive advertising that steals your intellectual property and the content from your website. Now its time to introduce Mr. Michael Gray of Gray Wolf Blog! Additionally Mr. Michael Gray finds the truth most painful and I must admit I sent him an email in the strictest privacy to remove certain gender biased comments of a hate inspired nature that ridicule women who just happen to be electrologists. In fact Mr. Michael Gray of Gray Wolf Blog and his associates think to openly mock, ridicule and denigrate a womans professional occupation is all right. Furthermore Michael Gray and the Gray Wolf lynch mob forum makes fun of and humiliate women with disfiguring unwanted hair problems. Gee, Mr. Michael Gray of Gray Wolf Blog and his forum pack members are so courageous because theyre not afraid to pick on women. Fact, where do these guys find their courage? Mr. Michael Gray of Gray Wolfs Blog, Reputation Management. Electrologists like myself with websites who check their listings have noticed websites that are stealing our names, our URLs, key words and most important our copyrighted content. Fact when you open these websites all they have listed is laser parlor hair removal advertisements. When you open one of those websites you will discover these sleazy laser parlor operators are located right in your neighborhood and for the record laser parlor operators are an electrologist’s primary competitors. So a website owned by spammers, hackers and black hatters steals my identity, my business name Boston School of Electrolysis, my URL, my intellectual property and my professional reputation and they list my competitors in the Phoenix area, I become angry. Of course Mr. Michael Gray of Gray Wolf Blog at Wolf-Howl.com who claims to be reporter never bothered to ask me one question, he just fired off his hate filled innuendo with out checking the facts. However I have one question, how come Mr. Gray never bothered to check the facts? Nonetheless I wonder how Mr. Gray would react if some one stole his name, professional reputation and identity? Furthermore these laser parlor hair removal blogs that list my competitors victimize women with unwanted hair problems by selling dangerous products that are rip off to begin with. That’s par for the course with Mr. Michael Gray of Gray of Wolf Blog whose hateful statements, plus his forum members comments clearly reflect that they could care less if a woman gets harmed or ripped off by dangerous temporary hair removal procedures or bogus products. These people are supposed to set an example! Well I thought it was unprofessional that Mr. Gray published a private email that I sent to Geoffrey Faivre Malloy and all I requested is that that he remove my private email, name and its content. However he did so and later Mr. Michael Gray of Gray Wolf Blog AKA wolf-howl.com loaded his gun and fired off his angry protest while claiming he did so under duress. Then again he kept his hate filled content as a matter of principal and published my private email to him. Nevertheless if some one has a dispute with Mr. Gray over business matters, I would be most concerned about sending him a birthday card let alone an email because he is an expert at twisting your words into lies. Mr. Gray’s comments about my computer skills need to be revaluated and just because he is the supreme search engine optimizer that doe not entitle him to abuse the system and its people. Mr. Gray for your information the Internet is for every one and its people like you who think they are entitled to use your so-called superior skills to abuse people. Fact Mr. Gray if it where not for the average user you would not have a job and if you think hurting people enhances your reputation you have allot to learn. Fact you do not have the right to ridicule and slander any person for defending their property, their profession and their way of life. Geoffrey Faivre Malloy, The G-Man Apologizes In today’s impersonal society people complain that today’s new generation lack manners and have no feelings. However Geoffrey Faivre Malloy and I worked out our differences and for the record in my book it takes a real man to apologize, and with out doubt the G-Man demonstrates the virtues of being a gentleman. However its people like Mr. Michael Gray of Gray Wolf Blog aka Wolf-how.com does not have that attribute and continues to beat the dead horse to overtly sensationalize a moot issue just to bring to attention to himself and harm to me. Furthermore because of Mr. Gray’s hateful comments I have received serious threatening phone calls and emails with explicit profane language from his members on his Gray Wolf Blog forum. However Mr. Michael Gray of Gray Wolf Blog refuses to post Mr. Geoffrey Faivre Malloy, The G-Mans apology to me. Please see post by the G-Man. Article is posted here http://www.seomoz.org/blogdetail.php?ID=1358 Mr. Geoffrey Faivre Malloy AKA The G-Man Says, A tip for your life… Posted by GeoffreyF67 on Mon (9/4/06) at 2:29 PM to Miscellaneous I was reading my usual forums today when I came across this post: Here is a good thing to keep in mind - not just in beta but throughout your entire life. No matter how right you might be and no matter how good your ideas are they immediately get diminished by using inflammatory language. Saying "go back and change whatever you screwed up" just makes you sound like you are a chicken little. The statement is not necessary to your post. By overstating you are undercutting your own credibility. You have some really great feedback in some of your posts and it is too bad you don't communicate it in the most useful way In addition to that, I've been talking to Kimberly for the past few days in e-mail. And while speaking with her I've learned "the other side of the story". Without going into her personal details, I'll just say that she is sincere in her beliefs and never intended anyone any harm. In fact, I would go so far as to say that she's more concerned about her own well-being as well as those of her clients. When I originally posted about her e-mail, I did so rashly. In retrospect, I should not have posted what I did. I have now come to the opinion that there are lines to be drawn… Specifically, it's ok to take someone to task or debate with them about a topic if they're a public figure or representing a company. For instance, writing on spam and how they're clogging the internet and targeting me would not be a bad thing. On the other hand, targeting someone who may have a website and sent an e-mail to you that may have been harsh does not mean one needs to respond in kind. Since I took Kimberly to task in a public blog I feel that the apology should come from the same place. So, Kimberly and anyone else I offended with that particular post, I apologize. I never intended any harm but I think I may have caused some. I'll be more careful in the future. And for what it's worth - those of you who are posting modified pictures of her on the net and/or sending her e-mails. Please stop and let this die - ok? A More Humble G-Man http://www.seomoz.org/blogdetail.php?ID=1358 Thank you very much G-Man, Kimberly Williams, R,E, Dean Mr. Michael Gray and his use of cowardly Yellow Journalism Its obvious Mr. Michael Gray of Gray Wolf is a believer in Yellow Journalism especially with his trademark use of prejudice, discrimination and bigotry with his special touch of hate. Nevertheless Mr. Michel Gray is hard to locate and trying to find Mr. Michael Grays phone number and address is impossible. However like so many other people on the net he has privacy lock on all his Internet listings. Maybe its because Mr. Michael Gray does not want to be interrupted while he’s watching his Sci-fi movies in his Star Trek Jammies. Mr. Michael Gray who claims to be a true Trekkie routinely violates and abuses the "Star Fleet Prime Directive†in seeking out new life because he destroys it, rather than nurture it. Additionally his snide prejudicial redneck comments about myself expose him as a prejudiced, bigoted GLBTG basher. Mr. Michael Gray loves privacy lock! Mr. Michael Gray of Gray Wolf has one only one-way to communicate via a comment on his forum and if he does not like what you say he bashes you. Fact and for the record it my professional opinion that website owners like Mr. Michael Gray who lack a legitimate storefront window have something to hide. Fact Michael Gray’s use of privacy lock means that he refuses to list his real name, address, business license, telephone number and legal mailing address, that’s if he has one? Why would Michael Gray hide the information needed to contact him? Maybe he does not want to be interrupted while boldly going where no other search engine optimizer has been? Mr. Michael Gray is supposed to be professional who wants our business or should I say money? Fact and for the record Mr. Gray I am proud of my work and my profession as a Massachusetts Licensed and Registered Electrologist on the other hand you and your forum members who mock and debase women with an unwanted hair problems demonstrate just how pitiless you are. On the other hand Mr. Michael Gray and his pack of dogs humiliate and denigrate electrologists and the professional services that electrologists provide. Mr. Gray and his forum members are unaware that there are over 40,000 electrologists in North America and as potential clients Mr. Gray and his members have made it obvious that they do not need our business. For you electrologists out there who want Search Engine Optimization services please send me an email for a list Gray Wolf Blog members who mock electrologists and humiliate women with unwanted facial hair problems. Email Fivestar@bostonschoolofelectrolysis.com Have Mr. Michael Gray of Gray Wolf and his pack forgotten their manners? Fact, I am amazed that Mr. Michael Gray and his pack of wild dogs actually think or believe they are high-toned elitists? Fact Mr. Gray of Gray Wolf and his pack of friends remind me of watching a Three Stooges episode where one of the two uppity psychologists at a high society soirée makes a bet that he can turn The Three Stooges into proper elitists just like themselves, of course the other psychologist knew better. So the uppity schmuck psychologist took The Three Stooges in their charge and educated them, clothed them and gave them all the advantages of life, however what happened at their coming out party? Why of course it only took few minutes for Moe, Larry and Curly to regress where they attacked the guests, traded insults, poked each other in the eyes and stab each other in the back. Folks, what is funny about these people is that they put on the dog that they are high-toned elitists search engine optimizers and they want everyone to think and believe they are superior beings above every one else. Nevertheless when you see Mr. Gray and his rabid mongrels in on the kill it’s obvious they are an unruly pack that has that has turned quite viscous. However why does Mr. Michael Gray hate me? Of course Mr. Michael Gray AKA Gray Wolf who claims to be a thinker has never thought of or considered my intellectual property rights. Additionally it’s most obvious he could not care less about other people’s property rights and his rationale that it’s okay to debase your name and reputation to get hits for his website. In his email to me he told what he can he legally can get away with, instead of doing what’s morally and ethically right. Fact Mr. Michael Gray AKA Gray Wolf has knocked down my listings and myself and what he is really saying to me is, “Take that Bitch.†However its obvious he’s good at beating on women, nevertheless what’s is he like in real life or should I say his personal life? Mr. Michael Gray AKA Gray Wolf I am on my feet now and I can say if beating on woman makes you feel better give me some more because everyone gets to see the real you in action. Now Mr. Michael Gray AKA Gray Wolf Blog wants to make his point by hurting my business and maliciously slandering my character. However please tell me why he is out to destroy my name, my hard work and my professional reputation? Fact and for the record this all about control and he thinks he has the right punish me by making fun of my profession, my writing and his snipes about my state of being. Nevertheless while mocking my profession he and others on his forum think a woman with a disfiguring unwanted hair problem is fair game to be humiliated and ridiculed. Nonetheless it apparent that Mr. Gray has deep seated unresolved psychological issues and his actions of stalking my website listings on the Internet demonstrate that his mind has been twisted by prejudice, discrimination and bigotry of the lowest nature. Nonetheless Mr. Gray claims to be an advocate free speech but he will not let me post a rebuttal on Gray Wolf Blog because he fears the consequences of the truth. Mr. Geoffrey Malloy Faivre the G-Man and I have put our differences aside. Nevertheless I have no idea why Mr. Michael Gray AKA Gray Wolf continues to beat the dead horse for personal reasons that most likely he likes to beat on women or people who can’t fight back. Fact hate crimes against women often go unreported however have you ever seen a rape victim on the stand when the rapist’s lawyer attacks her reputation? Well its apparent Mr. Michael Gray AKA Gray Wolf wants to punish me because he slams me the exactly same way a rapist’s lawyer does. He’s attacked my honesty and integrity by defaming my character with his hate inspired lies while trying to exert control over me in his blog. Fact and for the record, physical rape or mind rape is all about controlling the victim while the perpetrator inflicts his sadistic pleasure on the woman. In spite of this it’s apparent Mr. Michael Grays has developed an unhealthy obsession to the point where he takes pleasure in harming me. However you have to ask your self what kind man picks on and beats on 58-year-old handicapped woman with a spinal injury? This whole debacle all started because I stood up for myself and defended my property. Fact I prayed to for God for help and in short while Mr. Geoffrey Faivre Malloy, The G-Man and I put our differences aside and we have become friends. Again I have prayed to God for help and asked him to help Mr. Michael Gray to develop some common sense, humility and insight and to please leave me alone and stop stalking myself and my website http://www.bostonschoolofelectrolysis.com/. In spite of this it obvious Mr. Gray is beyond redemption and that’s why he has blocked my computers so I cannot not view his attacks. Additionally Michael Gray AKA of the Gray Wolf Blog has filtered out my email. It most apparent Mr. Gray has some unknown fear of the truth but I wonder what is he really afraid of? Nonetheless Mr. Michael Gray AKA Gray Wolf Blog needs to prove he is in control and that’s why he slams and cyber-stalks my website and search results. He wants every one to see him exert his control over me by rapeing my reputation, disrupting my life and my right to live in the pursuit of happiness. Mr. Michael Gray AKA Gray Wolf is abusing the system and his obsessive behavior is socially unacceptable and exposes him as a mean spirited yellow to the core coward that takes pleasure beating on women. Fact and for the record to all electrologsits, including its support industry please take great care before you hire some one to optimize you website. However it’s most obvious who will not be selected to optimize mine. Thanks to all of you that have been supportive of the truth! Kimberly Williams, R.E., Dean You can read this articles on my website http://www.bostonschoolofelectrolysis.com/virtual-electrologist.php Fact and for the record take a close look at Mr. Michael Gray AKA Gray Wolf wolf-howl.com slandering a 58-year old handicapped woman by stalking her website and stealing her identity! 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Sorry folks its WordPress Flattens Graywolf and takes him offline, does anyone know what happened? Kimberly,
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